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since: 19 Jan 2005

Evaluating my next laptop purchase

posted Wed 06 Feb 08

I've been doing a lot of thinking about the next computer that I buy. I've got a few requirements for the new machine, and a couple of options that I figured I would run by the readers of this blog. I'm guessing there's someone reading this blog who knows more than me about cost, value, depreciation, and general common sense (I seem to lack common sense...).

My requirements:

  • Must be more portable - lighter and smaller - than the 17" Macbook Pro
  • Does _not_ need to be 13" or "ultramobile" ... I can probably do 15"
  • Must be able to run PC software in some fashion, either through virtualization, bootcamp, or natively
  • I would like to be able to play PC games on it (moderate to heavy 3D usage, e.g. MMOs not FPS)
  • Must have enough RAM do do Visual Studio or Xcode , but I'm OK with slow compile times and slow debug starts
  • Must have a full-size keyboard. I will not tolerate sausage-finger typos on a laptop. My iPhone - yes. A laptop - no.

The alternatives so far:

  • Alienware 15" Gaming Laptop - I can get a twin-SLI laptop for around $3300 from Alienware. It's a crapload of money, but I would have a machine capable of doing VS2008 and gaming quite well. Downside: price, no Cocoa.
  • Macbook Pro 15" - Using the ADC hardware discount, I can get one of these fully decked out for a reasonable price. Less than an alienware gaming laptop. Video card is slightly less powerful, but still 64-bit core 2 duo, upsides: Cocoa. Could get an HD big enough to boot camp Vista for gaming (since you can't game virtualized).
  • Macbook Air - At the moment, this thing looks too expensive. I don't want to give up all the power I want on the road.
  • Macbook - This looks decent - never used one so I don't know what kind of compiling/debugging/gaming experience I'd be looking at. Black 13" looks slick, but the keyboard isn't illuminated and I think it's smaller.
  • Dell 13" - ridiculously powerful little device for less than the price of a Macbook Air. Actually comes in more expensive than the 15" macbook pro when using the ADC discount.
  • Dell 15" Gaming Laptop - I'm not really seeing this as a viable option. If I am going to buy a non-Apple gaming laptop, it's going to be from Alienware. Yes, it's pricey, but I've had flawless customer support from them and Alienware's hardware takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. I've got a Pentium 3ghz (single core hyperthreading) laptop w/3GB RAM gathering dust that has been beaten into submission but still works fine - looking for someone to take that one off my hands- it weighs like 500 pounds.

So anyway, that's my dilemma. I'm leaning toward the 15" Macbook Pro.. It would give me the mobility I want with a truckload of power, the ability to still play the somewhat modern Vista game, the ability to run VS2008, and the ability to run Xcode and build Cocoa apps for the Mac and for the iPhone.

I figured I would put this out here on the blog to get some advice - if anybody sees a better alternative than the 15" MBP, please let me know.

The downside of all of the non-Apple products is the lack of ability to run Xcode. I am almost certain that I want the ability to use Xcode on this machine so that I can demonstrate the iPhone SDK using it as well as write iPhone SDK code and potentially write Cocoa code... and Visual Studio 2008 code... Ugh... I think I have too many requirements.

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1. Edward J. Stembler left...
Wed 06 Feb 08 4:21 pm :: http://www.ejstembler.com

A few years back I was lugging around a fully–loaded 17" Dell Inspirion. The one with the ultra high, wide aspect ratio, resolution. I grew to loath it though. It was too heavy and bulky to carry around. The ridiculous default resolution make it frustrating to use. Increasing the DPI in XP made it unusable. Since then, I vowed to never get a laptop which is either too heavy/bulky, or has a 17" screen.

Last year, when I got my MacBook Pro, I specifically got the 15" model. Thanks to Boot Camp I was able to install Vista which I need for Visual Studio and SQL Server. I started out using Parallels but later switched to VMware's Fusion. I like Fusion's UI better and it seems faster. You can also dedicate a CPU core to the virtual machine. After Leopard came out I was able to bump my RAM from 3GB to 4GB since Leopard is 64–bit. With the extra RAM I rarely dual–boot now. I can run Vista from the Boot Camp partition inside Mac OS X with little to no lag. This works great for me!

Just the other day, I was at a client's site... I did a presentation using Apple's Keynote in OS X, while simultaneous running an ASP.NET application and walking through the source code in Vista. I use Verizon's wireless broadband (Rev. A) for my Internet connection. I can check my e–mail and browse the Web without using their connection. I can also connect to their VPN in Vista while keeping the connection in Mac OS X separate. This really works great for me.

I have nothing but good things to say about my 15" MBP. I only wish I would've given Vista a smaller partition size when I originally set up Boot Camp.

I recommend going with the 15" MBP. Though you may want to wait a while, there is speculation that they will be upgraded soon. Apple will presumably release the 64–bit Boot Camp drivers for Vista 64–bit at the same time. When those drivers come out I'll probably wipe out my 32–bit Vista and install the 64–bit one so that it can take advantage of my 4GB of RAM whenever I dual–boot. I'll also give it a smaller partition size the next time around.


2. Joe Jones left...
Wed 06 Feb 08 11:09 pm

A few weeks ago I dropped my 17" MBP and messed up the LCD display connector. Repair cost was going to run $1400+. I took this as an option to get something a little smaller since that 17" was a beast to lug around (and HOT). So, I went for the 2.2GHz White MB. With my 15% ADC discount that was $250+ than the repair for the 17". That was with the same processor speed but now with 64Bit C2D goodness.

I slapped 4GB from crucial in it and upgraded the HD to a 160GB 7200 from the 17". All in all I love this little guy. The only thing I can't speak to is the gaming as I don't really do much on my laptop. Other than that, it's great!

Seriously, 4GB, 7200 RPM and 22GHz and there is NO diff between that and the 17" for compiles or virtualization.


3. Peter left...
Thu 07 Feb 08 3:44 am :: http://microserf.wordpress.com

Well, if you'd want to go down the Apple road once again, I can only say good things about the white macbook. The black one only has a bigger harddrive as far as I can understand, and that's it. It doesn't justify the extra $.

The priciest white macbook is really good looking, very small and powerful enough for ALL my needs, it's my only computer. I use it for Parallels virtualization (Win XP), video editing (Final Cut Pro) making music and so on. The only drawback is that it isn't powerful enough for most new games, due to the graphics card.


4. wadesworld left...
Thu 13 Mar 08 4:16 pm

Never, ever, ever buy an Apple laptop without AppleCare. The cost of a single repair will easily double or triple the cost of AppleCare.


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