Orcas Beta 2 - might as well be a CTP

What are you doing with VS 2008 Beta2 that is causing it to crash? We haven't heard any real issues with crashing - so I'd definitely like to understand your scenario better to understand what is going wrong (my email is: scottgu@microsoft.com).

Thanks,

Scott

P.S. Also - have you run devenv /resetsettings since installing Beta2? I cover this in my blog post here: http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/200 7/07/26/vs-2008-and-net-3-5-beta-2-released.aspx It can fix issues you might encounter from having an old beta on the same machine.

Scott,

• Thanks for the comment. I've run the devenv /resetsettings on the machines that had beta 1, but the VM I'm using is a pure, clean fresh (64-bit Vista) installation. That command seemed to make a difference on the clean VM but hasn't really done much for the reliability of the laptops.

I will keep plodding ahead and see if things get better. The main symptom that I see is a crash after hitting F5 before it can even launch my app.

"The main symptom that I see is a crash after hitting F5 before it can even launch my app."

Sounds familiar...

This happens a lot to me as well, usually once I've edited some XAML and go to run things again it crashes. Seems to save the changes I made ok though.

Yeah, looks like we're experiencing the same thing. I'll edit some XAML (often unintentionally bringing up the designer by hitting backspace over some XML element... very annoying!!). Then I'll save. Save again. Make a backup. Hit F5 ... VS 2008 goes belly-up.

Sorry to hear you're having problems. I have Orcas Beta 2 running inside a Windows Server 2003 R2 Virtual PC image and it has been running very smoothly without incident. I also have Astoria installed, as well as the refresh for ASP.NET Futures.

Outside of the VPC image, my Visual Studio 2005 evironment (Vista 32bit) only crashes whenever I create a new Spec# project.

Given the history of th ebeta, I'm willing to bet that my issue is related to running on Vista. I've not heard any real complaints from anyone except people running Orcas on Vista.

Funny! I just posted about how I was pleased with beta 2 - much better than the past two CTP's. Well - not funny for you I guess. I'm tweaking different bits than you - I'm mainly messing with all of the VSTO stuff. I installed beta 2 on a fresh box running Vista Business (32 bit).

I with you on LINQ - sweet!

Heh, funny, I have it the other way around, Beta 1 kept crashing on me on fairly simple stuff, while Beta 2 is running fine :)

I get a lot of Orcas b2 crashes also. I've got 150k lines of vb.net code, and about 4 files of xaml. I get at least one crash out of VBC every day.

The other big issue is completely spurious errors showing up in my errors list until I Rebuild Solution. Most of these are "ambiguous in namespace" errors on things that aren't.

I tried to make a large change to my custom collection classes to make them use generics. I figured I'd break the base class, then use the error list to go through and fix everything I broke. This REALLY didn't make VS 2k8 happy. Eventually I got to a point where I couldn't even load the solution without crashing something, and I had to revert my changes.

I get frequent crashes - almost every other time I hit F5 if the split view XAML/Designer is up. It's actually quite consistent.

I also wish there was a right-click option on the solution explorer to open up the XAML in XML mode. The Open With option is a bit long winded. Maybe F7 to view code, shift+F7 to view XML or something.