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Windows Vista Beta 2 - Day 1

posted Thu 25 May 06
I recently read an article where it was mentioned that Vista Beta 2 is having a lot of trouble installing, and a lot of trouble with device driver compatibility. Being the glutton for punishment that I am, I grabbed the beta and installed it on my Tablet PC as a clean install. The installation took about 3 hours from start to finish, but I think it spent a lot of time reading data from my relatively slow DVD drive.. Tablets (at least the ones I've used) have notoriously slow CD/DVD devices - it keeps the cost down and the heat/battery consumption down as well.

What I expected:
  • My video card would not be recognized
  • My touchpad device would not be recognized
  • My pen/stylus for the tablet would not be recognized
  • My monitor would not be recognized
  • My audio card would not be recognized
Actually, I expected a lot worse. When I installed the previous beta of VIsta on my Alienware PC, I got nothing but a black screen - a completely hardware compatibility failure. Here's what happened:
  • Video card was recognized, though only at 32MB instead of the 128MB actual. There is no current update from Nvidia on the GeForce Go card
  • Touchpad works
  • Pen/stylus works like a champ, Vista Ultimate even detected that its a tablet PC and gives me access to the Tablet PC Input Panel
  • Monitor showed up as Generic PnP
  • Audio card was not recognized (no surprise here), However - I plugged in a plantronics USB headset and it works like a champ
  • I've lost access to portrait mode/landscape mode switching. I'm sure thats because I'm not using an Acer OEM of Vista


The system is screaming fast compared to previous builds, and I don't notice the unnecessary heat-up that some people have complained about on Vista running on laptops. I can get all of the graphical goodies with my "not quite there" 32MB driver except for transparent glass... And while transparent glass is fancy and looks really nice - I found I turned it off after a couple of days anyway - and I can still get transparency everywhere that it counts, like the sidebar.

Sidebar gadgets are quite cool, especially considering they're nothing but HTML and JavaScript - an unsurprising move from Microsoft. I remember "back in the day" when the sidebar actually contained WPF/XAML tidbits - and the performance of the sidebar was so horrible that it got yanked from a subsequent build. With nothing more than HTML and JavaScript, the sidebar is fast, lightweight, and only takes up about 20MB of RAM (previous on took up 100MB).

Tablet/Ink support is fantastic. My handwriting is pretty pathetic, and I would never bother with recognition in the XP version of my Tablet - I would just take native handwriting notes in OneNote and leave them in native handwriting. The recognition on Vista is fast and extremely accurate. It actually recognizes a lot of my chicken-scratch that would previously give Windows XP Tablet Edition fits.

The only thing left for me to do is install Visual Studio 2005, WinFX SDK, and the "Orcas" extensions and get crankin' on some Vista/WPF code.

Did I mention that I'm extremely pleased that sidebar gadgets are nothing more than JavaScript and HTML? :)

The only real complaint that I have is that blasted dialog that keeps coming up telling me that administrator credentials are required in order to perform an action. As a developer, I know exactly why this dialog comes up - and Windows Vista is twice as secure as Windows XP because of it... But I can also guarantee that your average user is going to be frustrated by it, and most of the people who use computers just for e-mail and occasional surfing are going to be downright confused by that dialog.

Update: I downloaded the Acer Tablet PC Buttons driver from Acer's Website, even though it said it was for Windows XP. I now have the ability to change orientation on my tablet PC - so it is a fully functioning, Vista-enabled Tablet PC. And One-Note 2007 on this Tablet is VERY cool.

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1. Jason left...
Mon 29 May 06 6:46 pm

Good to hear some people are having some good experiences on the tablet end of things. For me, I'm missing tablet and audio support. Without recognizing the pen, I'm pretty much forced to revert to XP. Using the "compatibility" features I got the XP tablet pen drivers to install but that had no effect. My experience on the desktop has been solid though. My hardware is all high-end brand name gear though so it'd be very painful if that wasn't working at this point. Still, I want to see support for the gateway CX200 tablet. Porting XP drivers to vista can't be that hard..


2. Paul left...
Thu 08 Jun 06 5:12 pm

You can get the updated NVidia driver for a tablet with rotation support (for vista) from laptopvideo2go.com complete with INF files. The Realtek site has the Vista beta AC97 audo driver. :) Good luck.


3. John left...
Thu 15 Jun 06 11:26 am

I had a similar experience with Acer travelmate c310. Have all working well, downloaded the acer buttons to rotate. However, I have no bluetooth and my wireless connections drop constantly. Any advice...?


4. Matt left...
Fri 23 Jun 06 9:12 am

I am unable to get any usb devices to work with the EZDock and the Travelmate C310. Anyone have this experience?


5. Hamish left...
Sat 04 Nov 06 4:28 am

Just loaded Vista RC1 onto my Acer C310. It's a great improvment from Beta 2 and the overall experience with Vista and Office 2007 is quite pleasing. Need to get my paws on OneNote 2007 still.

Most of my devices work fine. The SD Card reader wasn't detected by default but the driver from Acers website worked perfectly for that. I still need download the Realtek audio driver for Vista as the one Windows updated downloaded automatically complain "that it is not designed for this version of windows" The current video driver seems to work fine with all the features. Wireless works fine too.

I still can't get bluetooth working, my function keys, modem or tablet PC buttons. I really miss the Acer power management features where I could turn devices on and off. Battery life is severly reduced. On the brighter side most of my applications work just fine ;-)


6. Rambalac left...
Fri 17 Nov 06 8:33 am

I could turn bluetooth on with sbutton from acer's disk.


7. Rambalac left...
Tue 21 Nov 06 12:05 am

hmmm, but now it doesnt want to start... strange...


8. phillip left...
Sat 25 Nov 06 12:12 pm

I can not get the soft buttons to work nor the bluetooth.


9. Rambalac left...
Mon 27 Nov 06 1:25 am

ok, i installed "Launcher" removed everything from autostart because anyway it doesnt start. i manually start "HotkeyApp" and "WButton" (i set compatibility to "Windows XP SP2" and "Run as administrator" but still have to click "Allow" each start). Now bluetooth button is working but only once :). if i press it second time i get BSOD :)))). But at least it's enough to turn bluetooth on. Then i install Broadcom driver 5.0.1.3200 ( i found one for Lenovo laptops). I think you can find it in google using version number as the key.


10. Rambalac left...
Mon 27 Nov 06 2:22 am

Also there is no problem with tabletpc buttons. I installed software from Acer's cd with drivers and it works without problem


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