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My Silverlight Plugin has expired - WTF?!?

posted Thu 08 Nov 07

So I went to go re-watch Scott Guthrie's video illustrating the new upcoming MVC (Model-View-Controller) framework for ASP.NET when I noticed that the content is in Silverlight. That's fine, MS is trying so hard to push Silverlight as the answer to the world's problems that it's probably a requirement that all new content from MS come out as Silverlight content. Whatever, I can cope.... normally.

However... today I couldn't see the content. Why? Because I got a message that looks like this:

 Silverlight can kiss my ass

Ok fine, I can accep that somehow my Silverlight plug-in has expired or is no longer valid. But, isn't part of the beauty of Silverlight that it automatically updates itself like Flash has always done??? Oh.. I guess not. So, I'll just copy the URL and paste it into my browser and be done....WHAT?! The text in the dialog box is uncopyable. I can't select it. So, I have to type. the url. manually.

Then when I get to the URL, guess what I see? An error message indicating that my version of Silverlight plug-in is no longer valid and I need to ... *drumroll* .... go to the following URL to fix it!

So now, I am stuck in a scenario in which any Silverlight content I view is simply not rendered (as if it was an unrecognized pile of Javascript by the browser), and I cannot update the plug-in. I realize that Silverlight is still an up and coming technology but... come on... If this is a foreshadowing of the user experience people are going to get when Silverlight makes it prime-time ... what's going to keep developers from just saying to hell with it and using Flex? Well, the fact that Silverlight is .NET but... It would just be nice if Microsoft actually got the user experience right for once. I don't care if it's beautiful, I don't care if it's even smooth, but dammit it should at least WORK.

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1. David Cumps left...
Thu 08 Nov 07 3:00 pm :: http://blog.cumps.be/

I have the same problem....

You can copy paste the url from the dialog on vista by the way. Just press CTRL+C when the dialog has focus, paste it into Notepad and then you can copy the url from the text.


All this versioning problems (first with v1.0 v1.1 alpha v1.1 ctp, now this) made me decide to put Silverlight on hold until v1.1 reaches final stage. At least by then all the controls that would make it more usefull will be implemented.


2. Marc left...
Thu 08 Nov 07 3:31 pm

WTF, you ask? Ain't that Windows Technology Foundation? ;-) No jokes aside: Me too I'm waiting for the 1.1 and then we'll see.


3. Matt Casto left...
Fri 09 Nov 07 5:58 am :: http://programwith.net

Did you try uninstalling Silverlight from the Add/Remove Programs?

I'd have to think that this is some sort of bug because Silverlight is supposed to have the awesome built in updator. If not, it's ridiculous.


4. Kevin Hoffman left...
Fri 09 Nov 07 9:43 am

If you have to uninstall from add/remove programs, doesn't that negate the whole "awesome automatic updater" piece? I went into add/remove programs, uninstalled Silverlight, it failed but let me remove the installation entry anyway. Then I had to go back to the Silverlight website and install the 1.0 (not 1.1!) Silverlight control. I could NOT get Silverlight 1.1 to install after that. As I said in my blog, it would be nice if MS JUST ONCE got User Experience right.


5. Andrew left...
Sat 10 Nov 07 12:05 am

Why do people consistently jump up and down when something odd happens with *beta* software? Why are people so consistently dumb? I put it down to our limited attention society. Complain first, think later. (Or just forget about the thinking bit altogether)


6. Kevin Hoffman left...
Sat 10 Nov 07 11:11 am

1.0 is not beta. Next time read more closely before casting stones


7. Andrew left...
Sat 10 Nov 07 5:15 pm

Nowhere in your post do you refer to the version. I am still not convinced you were running version 1.0

Your comment refers to re-installing v1 and then complaining that after you installed the *beta* version 1.1 version 1 stops working. Refer to previous comment reg betas.


8. Kevin Hoffman left...
Mon 12 Nov 07 6:27 am

Actually, what I stated was that suddenly my v1.0 component stopped working. I had to un-install it and re-install it to get it to work again, and that process was far too complex for a released, v1.0 product. After everything was working, I tried to upgrade to the v1.1 component and couldn't. The reason this is significant is that when 1.0 was a beta and 1.1 was still CTP, both of them worked together, both worked flawlessly, and the installation method for both of them was quite simple. The problem is that MS yet again screwed the user experience when they rolled build numbers. That's the problem. If one of the huge selling points of Silverlight 1.0 (not 1.1) is that it can be seamlessly upgraded in-place (this is one thing MS has touted multiple times), then why is it that it cannot be seamlessly upgraded in place? I was running the RTM version of Silverlight 1.0 before - so obviously MS rolled a build number on the RTM bits post-release to do an update, and that upgrade failed miserably.


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