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First Impressions of Windows Vista RC1

posted Thu 07 Sep 06

I have seen a lot of reviews lately coming out of Windows Vista Release Candidate 1. So far, the reviews all seem pretty emotional and based on anger and rage that Microsoft has taken 5 years to produce a new operating system. These people are up in arms about how if it took them 5 years, they should be producing something more spectacular than Windows Vista, and so on. The bottom line is that I have seen very few objective reviews of Vista, least of all objective reviews of Vista RC1.

I'm hopefully going to fix that. Last time I installed Vista, I installed Vista Ultimate on a Tablet PC and the experience was basically what I expected - it didn't recognize my video card, didn't recognize my sound card, and I had to spend some time downloading drivers. Even then, the experience sucked because it deemed my Tablet unworthy of Aero. This time 'round I installed Vista RC1 (build 5536, the pre-RC) on an IBM ThinkPad T60p. This machine has 2GB ram and a FireGL V5200 and is a Centrino Duo. This laptop also has a ton of proprietary drivers that come from the factory - it also has a hi-def audio device that I was pretty sure would not be detectable. After a roughly 30 minute installation, Windows Vista found everything in this machine. I mean EVERYTHING. It knows I have a DVD burner, it knows about the hi-def audio, it knows exactly how much RAM my video card has, and it detected and activated my Bluetooth and my 802.11b Wi-Fi , including activating Windows Vista online using the wireless device.

As you can see from the screenshot of the Window Switcher below, Vista figures my laptop is worthy of Aero (click for the whole picture, its big):

Vista Desktop Window Switcher 

Vista rated me at 2.8 experience rating. It would have been 4.3, but Vista thinks my hard drive is slow. Its right: on a laptop running in performance mode, the hard drive doesn't spin nearly as fast as a new tower with hard drive speeds capable of 15,000 RPMs. My initial impression is that Vista is an extremely good upgrade to XP - its a no-brainer if you have a machine capable of running Aero and you have some kind of backup mechanism that allows you to save off all of your valuable files before you wipe your box clean (You WILL want to wipe your box clean when you install Vista).

So I clicked around and kicked the tires and I was quite pleased. The last version of Vista I ran was beta 2, and this looks a lot like beta 2, but things seem to be crisper, the reaction time of the windows is faster. A lot of people bitch and moan about the pop-up dialog that shows up and prompts you to give permissions to an application to do something as an Administrator. I like it. Why? Because I know how it works. I know that the technology underneath is actually putting that prompt in a completely separate, isolated sandbox from which nothing but the most secure function calls can be run. Stuff sitting in that protected desktop can't access the disk - it can't do JACK. That's comforting because I know that, unless I specifically authorize a piece of malware to destroy my machine, I am relatively without fear of hijack. Not to say that Vista won't fall prey to worms and virii, however, I feel a lot more secure running Vista than I do running XP. In fact, I no longer have XP running in my home.

Couple of times I ran into a situation where an app that relies specifically on XP-based technology failed, even in compatability mode.. But to be honest, it was a high-speed 3D game that definitely does not support Vista right now, and relies very heavily on specific versions of specific drivers from specific vendors - I was asking for trouble. When it did fail, it told me that the failure was "going to be fixed in RC1 later this year". I found that hilarious, considering I'm running RC1.

So now I'm on the train heading into work at around 50mph and I decide to have a little fun. I turn on the Bluetooth modem in my cell phone and then stuff it back in my backpack. Then, I ask Vista to find me some Bluetooth love:

 Bluetooth Detection

It sees my PDA-phone and it sees the cell phone of the guy 2 seats back using a Bluetooth headset. I decide not to try and hack his headphones into playing the theme song from the Brady bunch and connect to my own phone. Within a few seconds, I am using Vista RC1 to talk to my Bluetooth cell phone's Dial-up networking (EV-DO @ 200kbps!) service and surfing the web and downloading MSN messenger and Trillian ... from the train. A lot of the cool factor there is due to my phone, but the rest of it is due to Vista. I can't get XP to do that without installing special drivers, and Vista did it out of the box - as it should. Vista should support more devices and more peripherals than XP out of the box, so its up to par there.

Does anybody know how they made the background pictures? They're so unbelievably crisp with so much more detail than any other picture I've seen on my desktop its just plain scary. I don't remember them looking this good on my non-Aero experience a couple months ago. Are there special Aero-only backgrounds? Anyway, they look great - nice eye candy to keep the end users happy after the first installation.

So, after 1 day with the new Vista, I'm quite pleased. It does everything that I want it to do, and it does it quite well. Next, I'm going to explore the programming experience on Vista and see if this thing really holds up to me pounding on it with a Visual Studio-sized sledgehammer. The "People Near Me" feature needs to be explored some. I need to figure out if its worth it to use that or simply roll my own using WCF, or if WCF can integrate with the signed-on feature of the PNRP/People Near Me feature.

Day 1 Ratings:
Eye Candy Factor: 4/5
User Friendliness: 3/5 (It took me forever to find out that "Add or Remove Programs" had been renamed to "Programs and Settings")
Sturdiness/Reliability: 5/5 (so far, not a single slowdown or crash, and I beat on it pretty good with some high-end games)
Security: 4/5 (it would get a 5/5, but that pop-up window prompting for security won't allow me to permanently answer "yes" for a specific application, which is annoying)

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1. John left...
Thu 07 Sep 06 4:34 pm

Great review - my sentiments exactly. I too just installed it. For some reason it took overn an hour to install but I did not format my C drive prior to installing. I think a lot of that time was spent moving my old XP into the Windows.old directory. I will probably reformat and re-install this weekend. The GUI is very nice. So far no complaints from me...... Thanks again.


2. Craig left...
Fri 08 Sep 06 7:28 pm

I agree, it looks good and seems stable but to the average user why would they upgrade? You and I develop - we want stable and man I hope this thing can deliver - but for the average person, whats the incentive to upgrade?


3. David Moisan left...
Fri 08 Sep 06 9:28 pm :: http://dmoisan.spaces.msn.com/

I have RC1 running under Virtual Server (non Aero, no 3D-anything), and the backgrounds don't seem exclusive to Aero, I see them too.

They're beautiful, but I find there are too many wallpapers out there--including some of the Vista wallpapers--that jump out too much on the desktop so that the objects on it aren't legible.

Good wallpapers limit their contrast, saturation, brightness or all of these things so that they look good and yet don't obscure icons or their labels.

Hope my desktop looks better when it's running real Aero in a physical machine.

Take care, Dave


4. Cliff Peterson left...
Sun 10 Sep 06 3:05 pm

Thanks for posting this. I have been trying to install RC1 on a T60p and can't get past a BSOD STOP 7E on the ACPI.SYS driver. Latest BIOS, Drivers, Windows Updates, et al. At least I know it WILL work... eventually. (sigh)


5. Chris Brown left...
Sun 10 Sep 06 9:43 pm

Thanks for posting this, Kevin. I was looking for successful RC1 experiences on a ThinkPad T60p, especially wondering about the drivers.

One question: Did you lose all the ThinkPad Advantage software tools (the battery gauge, system updates, etc)? I'm tempted to put RC1 on my ThinkPad, but I'm afraid of losing access to these tools. They're one of the things that make the ThinkPad such an awesome notebook.

Thanks!


6. Kevin Hoffman left...

I went to IBM and re-downloaded the XP versions of the heads-up stuff (the on-screen volume notification), e.g. the hardware button support. That worked fine.

I could not, however, get the custom UltraNav touchpad software to load, so it doesn't recognize my middle mouse button, which sucks for my 3d modeling tool, but I always plug in the external mini-USB mouse for that anyway.

All in all, I'm extremely pleased. You don't need the battery gauge - the Vista one is BETTER than the Thinkpad one.


7. Cliff Peterson left...
Mon 11 Sep 06 9:33 am

Kevin, would you mind telling me what BIOS version you are running? I can't find any help getting past this ACPI.SYS error. I was really looking forward to driving Vista around for a while... so this is quite frustrating. Thanks!


8. Brian left...
Tue 19 Sep 06 1:24 pm

Cliff, I'm having the exact same problem on my T60 as well. I tried it on my mac mini with bootcamp, and it gave me the exact same acpi.sys error. I have burned 3 dvds now, so i know it wasn't my dvds. maybe it was the version of vista i d/l. did you get yours off of msdn?


9. Brian left...
Tue 19 Sep 06 10:08 pm

I figured out the problem, just incase anybody else finds this. I downloaded the "checked build" from MSDN. That was the problem. I downloaded the other one just labeled RC1 without "checked build". I don't know what the diffference is, but I now have Vista running on my T60. I use Gparted Live Cd to partition 25 gigs, and installed it there. It is VERY fast on my T60, much better than the Beta2 release. I think it's faster than XP.


10. Cliff Peterson left...
Wed 20 Sep 06 2:21 pm

I did get mine from our MSDN subscription. I'll go download the one you mention and give it a try. THANKS soooo much for sharing your solution. Heading off to download now... woohoo...


11. lh left...
Wed 20 Sep 06 7:30 pm

Installed rc1 on my 2.5yr toshiba satellite notebook. Simply beautiful, aero and all! No crashes and recognized all my hardware and I can still use Dreamweaver, Photoshop elements, etc. Only complaint so far is burning CD sucks big time. It wants 1hr to burn a 25meg cd!


12. Kevin Hoffman left...

If it wants an hour to burn a CD, have you actually checked to see if it does take an hour? Time estimates from MS products are notoriously useless.

On one Vista machine, burning a DVD takes about the right amount of time, and another one I have takes about twice that. I think its a matter of whether it finds _exactly_ your model DVD burner, or whether it approximates it with a generic driver.


13. Cliff Peterson left...
Wed 25 Oct 06 11:52 am

Sorry I did not get back sooner... no excuse... just forgot. But, for future (search engine of your preference inserted here)'ers. It was the Checked Build. I have seen those on MSDN forever and never really paid much attention. I have no idea what makes them different. But that is the one I downloaded that would NOT work. The "regular" build installed perfect. So... T60P with Vista and Office 2007. Luv'n life...


14. Dave Price left...
Sat 28 Oct 06 2:06 pm

I have Vista RC1 running on one of my buisness computers with windows office 2003 pro and it runs fine, all the office software loads at 3 to 4 times the speed that the other computers using XP do. Not really looked at the frills that come with it, but from a buisness point of view makes the other office computers look old and tired. The problem is other software and hardware suppliers are not up to speed in providing the updated Vista drivers that are required.


15. anon left...
Sun 10 Dec 06 2:06 am

just to add one cool thing in, if u do a screen shot on a duel mon, it will get both monitors!

do u know how long it toke me to get that in xp???


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